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mjgogaels	Is The New Logo an Improvement Over the Old?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 6166 Jul 24 07 5:54 PM Bleeding Red and Blue Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None New Old

mjgogaels	Re: Is The New Logo an Improvement Over the Old?	#1	[-]
Posts: 6166 Jul 25 07 10:33 AM Bleeding Red and Blue Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	OLD LOGO I apologize for the confusion but the jpeg that I copied got updated to the new logo last night after I posted this poll. I think this old one might stick around for awhile.
worldwidewebfoot	Beat you again MJ	#2	[-]
Posts: 972 Jul 25 07 11:37 AM Bleeding Red and Blue Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The college must have sent out a worm to destroy the old version whereever it existed.
Nunesy	1 Year	#3	[-]
Posts: 633 Jul 25 08 7:35 AM Gael Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	This post has lasted 1 year today without anyone responding. That must be some kind of record. Maybe it's time for another poll.
noprunie67		#4	[-]
Posts: 819 Jul 25 08 8:03 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	que sera,sera.
worldwidewebfoot		#5	[-]
Posts: 972 Jul 25 08 8:29 AM Bleeding Red and Blue Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Maybe a good time to revive this discussion since the College's new marketing plan is now up on the website. Takes some digging to find. Someone walked me through it on the phone, but I forget. I believe the first steps are academics, then provost, then something else. Also excited to see that a new mascot is going to be unveiled soon.
mjgogaels		#6	[-]
Posts: 6166 Jul 25 08 9:26 AM Bleeding Red and Blue Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	link it, Weby.

worldwidewebfoot	If you insist	#7	[-]
Posts: 972 Jul 25 08 9:35 AM Bleeding Red and Blue Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://www.stmarys-ca.edu/about-smc/vice-provost-of-enrollment-vp-college-communications/institutional-marketing-plan.html
mjgogaels		#8	[-]
Posts: 6166 Jul 25 08 11:24 AM Bleeding Red and Blue Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Opinions were also divided on the athletic logo - perhaps a reflection of differing perspectives on athletics: • On the positive side, constituents thought the athletic logo conveys some authentic Saint Mary's values and distinctions: common goals, equality, spirit, enthusiasm, loyalty, passion, strong community spirit. They also liked the cultural meaning of the Celtic knot. • On the negative side, some felt the logo is not representative of the entire college, and reflects an athletic culture that is out of date, sexist, arrogant, revolving around "drinking and yelling insults." The majority of negative feedback was centered on the "God is a Gael" phenomenon.
Fenian88		#9	[-]
Posts: 563 Aug 3 08 9:37 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm sorry, I didn't get a lot of sleep last night so maybe I'm not thinking sharply... can someone please explain the above comments found in the "negative side" to me? Like or dislike the logo, how does someone get "sexist" from this logo? Or "arrogant"? I'm a visual guy with some experience in this type of thing. Those types of words are not usually thrown around to describe a logo design. But maybe I'm missing something? And where does "drinking and yelling insults" appear in this stylized "SMC"? Are they implying that because it looks "Irish"? Perhaps I'm a bit oversensitive but if that were the case I'd say the comment is inherently based on an outdated negative stereotype and a disturbing prejudice that I find personally offensive and rude! Lastly, what is the "God is a Gael phenomenon"? Honestly, what is that? Thanks for the help on this. The "positive side" is a bit perplexing too. Where do they get "common goals, equality, spirit, enthusiasm, loyalty, passion, strong community spirit" from this logo? (or any logo?) It's like someone saying, "Ah yes, I see the smell of cherry blossoms." Huh? Anyway, I'm more confused by the negative responses. For disclosure, if I had my way they would have gone back to the old interlocking "SM" from the 30s-50s. That said, I generally like the "new" logo design. I certainly think it is a vast improvement on the old. It's unique and fresh yet has a classic quality. Although I do think the "G" in the "shield" is a bit simplistic and goofy... Seems like that would have been a nice place for The College Seal or a silhouette of The Chapel... or different areas of The College could have rotated unique symbols depending on their need, for example, the School of Science could have had their own shield symbol, as with the School of Business, etc. Each club and athletic team could have had their own shield symbol too… for example, the rugby club could have had the silver fern in continued honor of Pat Vincent... but whatever. Last Edited By: Fenian88 Aug 3 08 9:50 AM. Edited 1 times.
mountjoy7		#10	[-]
Posts: 720 Aug 6 08 3:03 PM Bleeding Red and Blue Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	88, amen on all counts. . . . . . . . . . .except maybe the outdated negative stereotype thing.
Fenian88		#11	[-]
Posts: 563 Aug 7 08 7:30 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	If I wasn't so drunk right now I'd fight you for saying that... hiccup.

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